CCTV footage from the location shows a woman jumping in front of a moving train in Ghatkopar station in Mumbai. I applaud the sheer ingenuity of this theory! As a subscriber, you are shown 80% less display advertising when reading our articles. The investigation into the woman's death is still ongoing, police told Patch. The eight-months pregnant woman bought herself a ticket before running across the platform and jumping in front of a non-stop intercity train which sped through the station at 115mph - instantly . By doing so, you will also receive an email inviting you to receive our news alerts. cleo - You're right. why?". 7 train at the 40th Street-Lowery Street station in Sunnyside around 4:15 a.m., cops said. If people wish to suicide, whatever, just dont take down others with you. The inquest heard that a member of the public who was walking down the stairs briefly paused to look at Ms Redmond, but then moved on. Join the leaders of English Education for Children in Japan! And even in death she's seen as a big fail by some here. An unidentified woman was injured when she jumped in front of a southbound No. Another deluded individual. At this low point rational thinking is almost gone, the main thing is to end the life. There are few posters on here who don't say it's a shame she did what she did, and that it's horrible she reached such a point where she felt this was the only option. In the incident caught on CCTV, a policeman jumps after the woman to rescue her. She was seen wrapped in a poncho walking hand-in-hand with daughter Melsadie, who was wearing alittle furry parker jacket with a winter hat and gloves, at the station one hour and 12 minutes before their deaths. Stressful start to National Offer Day? I would liek to see an awareness programme for people to understand mental illnes, depression and suicide better. JR will be amply compensated for this, as in all other suicides. 'Had police been observing her, they would have approached her because of her behaviour.'. Some subway lines were rerouted. Kiosk and bystanders apparently unhurt. I'm tired of having traffic backed up when they jump off of a bridge, delays when they go in front of a train, and bystanders being endangered when they want a cop to off them. You apparently simply cannot empathize with someone who has stopped thinking rationally. Woman killed by oncoming train in Bensonhurst: NYPD. Antonia Paget For Mailonline "I am going to kill myself, and I am going to make all of you late for work, dates, whatever in the process.". Suicide is complex, but without a doubt, there needs to be FAR more done here for mental illness. DS Rees agreed that Melsadie was 'behaving well' and did not 'appear to be demanding' until the mother and daughter were seen leaving the station. Thank You. Not one of you seem to consider that maybe this woman had fallen into depression due to the current situation caused by TEPCO or the Earthquake / Tsunami. I've seen suicide, lived with it from someone close and i would never blame them for the hurt it caused me and others. We talked to BestReviews nutrition expert, Molly Bremer, about her favorite whole grains and how to use them. And quite frankly, here in Japan I have no idea at all how you would go about it. However, they returned just 12 minutes later at 8.17pm. But also unlucky. It might not get better. Going to the top of the building could set off certain alarm bells, so to speak, and someone might notify the authorities or someone else and the person might be talked down. There is something seriously wrong with a lot of peoples thinking here and i think you need to add a bit of humanity and empathy to your souls. I agree with steve@CPFC, there is no point trying to criticize this person. Some say the most efficient way is to jump into an active volcano. I always wonder if train jumpers are so frustrated w/ society, that this is their final, middle-finger salute. Rangers trade Kravtsov, waive Leschyshyn, Giants, Jets fans among most passionate in NFL: report, PIX11 talks with Adam Korsak ahead of NFL Combine, Moose on the Loose: New York basketball is fun again. So, after that experience I'm not so keen on excusing those people. The law is illogical and wrong, because it can make you to use "super glue" ,so to speak, to join each family member together 24/7 for just having peace of mind. (Thanks to Ben Orlove for the tip.) Most of us are simply turned off or revulsed and have enough problems on our plate everyday without having to come up with extra strength to help others, expecially those with desperately deep needs. Her life these past months may have sheer hell for and/or family and she believed that this was the "honourable way out", as the Japanese people believe it to be. How absurd and heartless to say, "legalize suicide". 'Selfish' is a description, not a judgement. would you agree that the definition of selfish could also be applied to the people here who are lacking in consideration for someone who was pushed to the ultimate extreme of taking her own life? A heavily pregnant mother-of-two jumped in front of a high speed train after discovering her unborn baby girl could have a facial deformity, a coroner heard. Because you have compassion for those who commit suicide doesn't mean you don't also have foranyone who has had to witness and deal with it. If the person can redirect their thoughts to include others, they're more likely to realise that things aren't that bad and so less likely to actually commit suicide. Northbound 5 trains are running local from Third Avenue-149th Street to 180th Street. Royal Mail worker Zdenka Yabani spiralled downhill after a scan of her unborn daughter revealed the news that her baby was 'small' and could have a facial abnormality. Mother-of-four killed herself by jumping in front of train at packed station moments after sending a text and handing her bag to a stranger Woman was killed yesterday at Wigan North Western . Plus, in Japanese society, past and present, there is NO stigmata (sic) on suicide. For that you are lucky. Young mother, 27, who was behind on her rent and bills as she struggled with cost of living took her three-year-old daughter by the hand and walked in front of a train, inquest hears Newsquest Media Group Ltd, Loudwater Mill, Station Road, High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire. Because it's far more likely she ended her life for the simpler reason most people end their life - clinical depression. But seriously here, counselling is available for those that look for it. All of you who said "she was selfish" knew her right? Police had few immediate details, but said the person may have jumped in front of the subway. The posts that are concerned about the effect on others (the people who were injured, the people who had to witness what happened, the families that have to cope with the aftermath, etc - No, I don't think expressing concern for those people is selfish. the point is that he couldn't sleep for a couple of days and said he couldn't get the sound of the train hitting the guy's head out of his mind..he still sometimes speaks about it. If you are dissatisfied with the response provided you can MoriNoHogosha; very brave of you to come here and post how you feel.Suicide is seen by many as a dirty and nasty thing. As for counselling, this country's culture is built on saving face. Spend some time reading up about mental illness and especially depression.". Giving evidence at the Berkshire Coroner's Court in Reading, Mr Yabani explained that the pair moved to Slough in 2007 after he accepted the role of Minister at St Andrews Church and Zdenka was pregnant with their first son. Do you know how much money her family is going to have to pay to the train company for this? A woman along with her four-year-old daughter allegedly jumped in front of a goods train following a dispute in the family near Meva Nawada railway station of Sahaspur, police said on Saturday. I know they are not in their normal state of mind, but still, if one wants to end his/her life it's better to do it quietly and away from people's eyes. No counseling available in this country? 1998 - 2023 Nexstar Media Inc. | All Rights Reserved. But before that can even happen, the stigma in society of seeking help needs to be broken. There is SOME counselling, but it's still woefully inadequate and carries a certain stigma with it. Shortly afterwards, Ms Redmond and Melsadie were seen to enter Taplow stationand the pair remained at the station for around 20 minutes. . According to investigators, the woman, believed to have been aged in her 40s or 50s, was standing on the third platform at Shin-Koiwa Station at around 10:00 a.m. She then moved to the edge of the platform as the Narita Express airport service approached, on schedule, at 10:04 a.m. and threw herself in front of the train, which was travelling at around 110 kph. 09:48 GMT 16 Nov 2020. She was thinking of herself alone. I even came close once, and I probably would not be sitting here typing this if not for intervention. Detective Sergeant Simon Rees told the inquest that a financial investigator had examined Ms Redmonds circumstances prior to her death. So yes, prevention starts in the early years. But what she did was still selfish in the end, and many others are paying for and WILL pay for it. I like Cleo's comment about those contemplating suicide, taking time to get their affairs in order and as a ancillary benefit, truly sitting down to evaluate and think. EXCLUSIVE - Revealed: Carol Kirkwood's secret toyboy fianc - 13 years her junior - is a divorced police 'Digital antidepressants' to be rolled out on the NHS as health bosses give eight apps and web-based therapy Do not sell or share my personal information. Southbound 2 and 3 trains are running local from 96th Street to Times Square-42nd Street. Zara's husband announces a two-month tour with his rugby podcast 'We met a Princess'! Obviously you've never dealt with that and I sincerely hope you will never have to, but you gotta try to imagine that there are worlds out there different from yours. OZONE PARK, Queens A woman was killed after she jumped in front of a train Friday morning, policesaid. The main thing is mental ilnnes should be seen and treated as any other illness. Why, of course it is! If it happened to your loved one would you like them to be called "selfish" and other nasty words? The woman jumped in front of a southbound A train at Rockaway Boulevard around 10 a.m., police said. I know about this and how the mind will not allow rational thought, how all help means nothing and life is pointless. But before that can even happen, the stigma in society of seeking help needs to be broken. 2. This is an archived article and the information in the article may be outdated. inaccuracy or intrusion, then please alot of people do this to make other people suffer & have regret. I think you completely missed the point of my 'taking it out on others' comment - I'm not referring to her killing herself, I am referring to her doing it in public, needlessly traumatizing so many others. Reply. Shortly afterwards, the mother and daughter were seen to enter Taplow station from Approach Road, where they remained at the station for around 20 minutes. 1. (Just read today's article about women running into problems with loan companies. Take the quiz: How well do you know LIV Golf? Zdenka kept her third pregnancy a secret from her husband for five months, the coroner heard. why? We should sop thinking so much about ourselves, ok we are late for work, but a fellow human has died, their shoudl be pity for the deceased and their family not bitterness and anger.Humanity needs a lot of improvement. It is thinking like that that results in Japan having such a pathetic mental health system, and mental illness still having such a stigma here. The coroner heard how the religious pair met while they were both living in the Czech Republic, before separately travelling to America and reconnecting. isnt there a more peaceful way and less scary way to commit suicide? She later made a number of phone calls, including one to her prospective employer and another fairly lengthy call with her landlord, Hightown Housing Association. There are many selfish ways of committing suicide which involve pain or difficulty or 'meiwaku' for others (actually the English contains a nuance not in Japanese, ie of committing a crime, so perhaps 'ending your own life' might be a better way to phrase it than 'committing suicide'). It is true that mental illness is still taboo in Japan and that is a lot of the problem. A heavily pregnant woman died this morning after jumping in front of a high-speed train - also killing her unborn baby. ( ) A. bad B. badly C. good D . Some like yourself may contemplate and be abel to stop the urges and possibly get help For soemthey may get further and feel there is no help or they are so far gone into the darkness to be helped. 2-8-16 Higashi-Kanda I think I'd be sick to my stomach if I witnessed that. This article tells us where she died but not where she was from. the person was sick of mind. I doubt the woman calculated the angle of bounce. If anything, Government action should be to reach out to the weak to remind them they are loved. Steve: you make some excellent points about the ones left behind. If anything, it was cowardice more than selfishness. Police say although there were no eyewitnesses to the incident, the events were captured by a station security camera. Somehow she didn't fit in to it. Northbound 3 trains are running on the 5 line from Nevins Street to 149th Street-Grand Concourse. Incredibly (or perhaps not so incredibly) another person did the same thing there today. We know her well enough to know she ended her life in the most selfish way possible - by traumatizing many people forced to witness her death, not to mention those injured. DS Rees said: Leighane Redmond had several debts in several forms. Wrong signal. Swiftly after, the couple received a letter from the Overseas Department stating they would have to pay to transfer hospitals - which sent Zdenka's mood spiralling, assistant coroner Alison Mccormick heard. She may simply have chosen this route because of her belief that it would both end her suffering and take the burden of supporting her away from society and/or whatever family she had. A suicide note has also been recovered by the police. Her movements around the station, going from one side of the station to the other, going down to the station and back up, was an unusual pattern of behaviour. They see, but many if not most times do not register what occurred, they let things go much faster and do not let it get to them. It's a shame that because of her actions others were hurt, and with the Japanese being as they are, I doubt as well that others were traumatized by this woman's actions as well. Describing CCTV footage showing the mother and daughter today, Assistant Coroner Ian Wade KC told Beaconsfield Coroner's Court: 'Sadly, what we can see is that she gathers Melsadie up in her arms and jumps carefully from the platform down to what is known as the forefoot and is then struck by the train.'. I'm glad to see some compassion being expressed; who knows what unspoken burdens people carry around. She was caring and a good mother. Mother cradled baby daughter and 'carefully jumped' in front of train, inquest hears. That's truly sad. I will never regret having her in my life.'. "fit into society"?! Perhaps this is too 'clean' or 'romantic'. 'When she was well, we never had confrontations, the only time we argued was when she didn't want to take her medication. 40.680481 -73.843731. I doubt she was thinking along those lines though. A person contemplating suicide is so full of their own problems they have no room left to consider others. Registered in England & Wales | 01676637 |. why do people consistently suicide by jumping in front of a train? The traditional way was to jump off a cliff. Another sad and quiet tragedy unfolds. Did she intend to hurt 4 other people in her attempt to destroy herself? . When the temperature gets hotter,many people do strange things they would not have done in a normal situation. UPPER WEST SIDE, NY A woman died after jumping in front of a train at the West 72nd Street and Broadway subway station Thursday night, an NYPD spokeswoman told Patch. That's truly sad. A few reasons, I would imagine, although of course I'm also at a loss as to why people feel the need to off themselves. Japan has a major cultural flaw. Email: editor@japantoday.com I am absolutely amazed how many people on this message board knew the deceased person. My friends husband died last year through suicide. I was trying to get rid of her sadness.'. The court heard how the pair were tragically killed after being struck by a train having been on a platform that was closed to the publicfor around six minutes beforehand. Had police been observing her, they would have approached her because of her behaviour., The coroner said: At this stage, Melsadie is becoming rather frustrated and upset with her. I think they should think about others rather be self centered. Another example of what happens when emotions are pent up through the pressure of life in Japan. Of course she didn't. NOT everything is easy. It would be great if everyone in the world was apart of a single global consciousness. It's very sad. Reports suggested that the woman was accused in a case. Many here seem to think that suicide is a matter of choice as is the means to commit the act. Seems like a lot of people still need to learn about mental illness. If your going to do it don't risk others. There are other less 'intrusive ' ways to get to the next life - better to help people get over it though. She later made a number of phone calls, including one to her prospective employer and another 'fairly lengthy' call with her landlord, Hightown Housing Association. So please don't accuse me of not understanding, I understand it all far too well. Regardless of her true mental state prior to jumping, I place blame for neither the damages nor the resulting trauma on that woman. They lose their self esteem completely and compound with bad the economy, two-thirds of the people in Japan has money worries and they are feeling helpless. They don't realize how much of a mental block depression puts on a person. The MTA confirmed that somebody was hit at the station and that 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 train service was affected by the ensuing emergency response. The much-in-love couple married and moved to Manchester in the UK in July 2005. 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