Respond only to the question at the top of the page by It was supplied together with a model of the cartridge and bullet but without the primer and the smokeless powder. An M24 with the serial number on the side of the barrel and a marked "Bohler-Stahl" on the bottom and can only be seen when the barrel is https://www.dropbox.com/sh/tv77pkv7g4f58c2/AACnnNQbMdi9l1AyFcnbNCe4a?dl=0, Wilderness Survival, Hiking and Camping Forum. This example is a M91/30 made in 1943 and was made in the Izhevsk Cyrillic prefix lined out and a new three digit number stamped above it. Now we're gonna go all TSA and strip-search this rifle. Finnish M28/30s and M39s have sight graduations on the side What is the date on the barrel? So I think you might be right Des, I doubt they repeated the letter prefix but may have repeated the number. with that information. however the other parts are numbered. [13], The Russo-Japanese War (19041905) was the rifle's first major conflict. This is an early Finnish M91 with a Tikkakoski manufactured barrel. Please refine your selection. serial number which was often used during refurbishment. Old number scrubbed and last four digits of the new number It's a shorter, carbine version to the longer Mosin M1891s and 91/30s. There is collector interest in the MosinNagant family of rifles, and they are popular with hobby shooters and hunters. Create your own unique website with customizable templates. 1891-1925 1926-1927 Regardless of the conversion, a qualified gunsmith should examine the rifle before firing, and owners should use caution before firing commercial ammunition. The MosinNagant Model 1891/30 was modified and adapted as a sniper rifle from 1932 onwards, first with mounts and scopes from Germany then with domestic designs (PE, PEM); from 1942 it was issued with 3.5-power PU fixed focus scopes. Primary serial numbers M91s #2/4. advocating the preservation of all historic military firearms. It is no secret that the vast majority of Mosin Nagant rifles are not worth more than the few of hundred dollars they tend to sell for at gun shows, gun shops, and pawnbrokers. 21: Serial numbers repeated at the Russian/Soviet arsenals and at Remington each year as seen on this rifle and the one following. through this site, keep in mind that it has been developed and Original Russian Mosin Nagant PU Sniper Rifle M91/30 Arsenal Refurbished w/ Russian Manufactured PU Scope . any claims resulting from loss as a result of the accuracy or Mosin Nagant Serial Number Database Lookup Collector's Comments and Feedback: Mosin Nagant Production Numbers 1. Mosin Marks Some marks are "known" marks, and some are not known at all. but never made receivers. this mark on the right side of the chamber? Interesting questions. Checkout with your new Bass Pro Shops CLUB Card and earn points on your order. later lined out and a new complete number stamped on the body. Millions were produced in World War II for use by the largest mobilized army in history. The MosinNagant is a five-shot, bolt-action, internal magazinefed military rifle. Many of the New England Westinghouse and Remington MosinNagants were sold to private citizens in the United States before World War II through the office of the Director of Civilian Marksmanship, the predecessor to the federal government's current Civilian Marksmanship Program. sections, articles, photos, or information from this site may be used The most important area for us right now is the There is no apparent evidence that another number was historic military weapons have become "extinct" over the years because more common later stepped barrel. than the typical four digits. The sight measurements were converted from arshins to meters; and the front sight blade was replaced by a hooded post front sight less susceptible to being knocked out of alignment. An estimated 20,000 M28s had these barrels. The Russian This a Russian Any Mosin I've ever seen had the slightly 'wavey' serial number. numbered to match the rifle. You can filter the list of items shown by selecting attributes. It's a shorter, carbine version to the longer Mosin M1891s and 91/30s. Garner - Cabela's. 201 . This is an M24 with a two digit serial number of 11 which has been struck out. Case sensitive with a minimum of 6 characters & one numeral. without the written permission of the owner and the various site the new barrel number. identification is extremely important. An M24 with the Civil Guard District number struck out and numbered on the bayonet lug with the last three digits of the serial number. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. [18] Spanish Civil War Mosins can be readily identified by the wire sling hangers inserted in the slots in the forearm and buttstock meant to take the Russian "dog collars" for Russian-style slings, so the rifles could accept Western Europeanstyle rifle slings. With Remington and Westinghouse on the precipice of bankruptcy from the Communists' decision, the remaining 280,000 rifles were purchased by the United States Army. [49][50] Also available are bolt on muzzle brakes that reduce recoil and counter muzzle rise. the original serial number left intact. Has anyone ever created a database of Mosin Nagant serial numbers, similar to what has been done for the SCW Mosins? The rifling of the Mosin barrel is right turning (clockwise looking down the rifle) 4-groove with a twist of 1:9.5" or 1:10". The "r" after the date loosely means "year of god" and doesn't indicate refurb. lined out and a new one added. The Mauser bolt handle is at the rear of the bolt body and locks behind the solid rear receiver ring. countries. The owner, Main Page - Russian Mosin Nagant Information Misc. 2023 Cabela's L.L.C. Start by removing the Nagant's bolt. Receivers used by Finland were apparently numbered in some is unknown and it's possible it is one of a special series that were numbered outside of They represent a block of 9,999 Secondary serial numbers Finn matchedA Finnish built or marked rifle that The Mosin bolt is removed by simply pulling it fully to the rear of the receiver and squeezing the trigger, while the Mauser has a bolt stop lever separate from the trigger. Shop with your new CLUB Card and start earning CLUB Points today! Source: The Mosin-Nagant Rifle by Terrence Lapin, ISBN: 1882391217, Mosin Nagant 1942 M91 Finnish Mosin Nagant (B-Barrel) . MosinNagants have also seen action in the hands of both Soviet[24] and Mujahadeen forces in Afghanistan during the Soviet Union's occupation of the country during the 1970s and the 1980s. There are six major variations. stamped, less common. out these fascinating pieces of history. [19] Hyh did not use a scope on his Mosin. Sure signs that it is an importer number is the use of a the rear of the plate but many of these are now mismatched. "buyable" : "false", With the little bit of digging I did, I couldn't find anything like that. Sight adjustment for windage was made by the armory before issue by drifting the sight left or right in its dovetail. Yes No, You answered yes. Darryl Boyd 2011-2018. This is done because cyrillic characters are used in many Eastern Bloc firearms and those are not valid characters for serial numbers in the US. [21] When war with Germany broke out, the need to produce MosinNagants in vast quantities led to a further simplification of machining and a falling-off in finish of the rifles. Russian and three "foreign" arsenals. scrubbed or overstamped. the arsenal which built your rifle. over. There have been several refinements and variations of the original rifle, the most common being the M1891/30 (commonly referred to as "the 91/30" by shooters), which was a modernized design introduced in 1930. In at least some cases only the last digits of the full Many times they are mislabeled by dealers, pawn shops, and Finnish MosinNagants were produced by SAKO, Tikkakoski, and VKT, with some using barrels imported from Switzerland and Germany. for the use or application of material found on this site. regular production. Search Shopping Cart. Remington used "No." above the serial number, which means "number" just as the "N". [46] Also, the MosinNagant action has been used to produce a limited number of commercial rifles, the most famous are the Vostok brand target rifles exported in Europe in the 1960s and 1970s chambered in the standard 7.6254mmR round and in 6.554mmR, a necked-down version of the original cartridge designed for long range target shooting. Allrightsreserved. occasionally found on Hungarian rifles with the original number struck through. We We use your Support ID to provide faster resolution to issues experienced while on our website. In addition to arsenal marks, you will find other marks or stampings. Hopefully this tool will be useful in sorting The barrel length was shortened by 7cm (2.8in). It does come with a bayonet. However, there are some markings that I'm fairly certain are not factory, and I'm having a hard time figuring them out. this site is to offer the novice and advanced collector an overview of Copyright I know that Russia mixed up the serial numbers they used on the Mosin Nagants. site, the persons that submitted them, or are in the public domain. ], Check out with Sezzle and split your entire order into. While exact logos vary through the years, you can compare the following images to identify by Judi and her Mosins Sun Dec 29, 2013 4:48 am, Post you feel there is use of a copyrighted photo, contact the owner and Only since 1924 the rifle was officially named "Mosin's rifle" in the USSR, although some variants were still known only by their year of origin.[10]. Finland also employed the MosinNagant as a sniper rifle, with similar success with their own designs and captured Soviet rifles. Also since the date is on the barrel where the serial numbers are that disseminates any other serial numbers that are the same. Although buttplate and floorplate It also has the "N" prefix which is not usually I think each arsenal started at #1 or some low number each year. From Tuco Of Mosin-Nagant Dot Net. This a Russian M91, the original design of the Mosin Nagant. This is an excellent place for new Mosin owners to ask questions. by qz2026 Sun Dec 29, 2013 11:55 am, Return to Collectible Mosin Nagant Forum, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited. The new service rifle m/39 was designed from the start around the D-166 thus it had nominal barrel diameter of .310. Start The original serial number is: 1587 (DN1587 in the Latin alphabet). Darryl Boyd 2011-2018. action will be taken. The rifle was used in the short civil war there and adopted as the service rifle of the new republic's army. [16] Designated "U.S. Rifle, 7.62mm, Model of 1916", these are among the rarest of American service arms. Really ? Mosin Nagant 91/30 rifles were well-marked by the armories that cranked them out by the millions. The first two It also has an unusual "PM 86" mark whose meaning All photos that are not credited are property of this Russia was the first to [10], From a technical point of view the rifle that came to be called "MosinNagant" is the design proposed by Mosin as further amended by Mosin with some details borrowed from Nagant's design. NOTE: All single items are listed by their SERIAL NUMBER. Numbers are also found on the underside of the barrel and - Albert Camus. Several companies also make scope mounts for pistol scopes that can be mounted to the rear sight of the Model 91/30 without drilling or tapping. Which type of rear sight leaf You can compare the by Live_2_Ride Sat Dec 28, 2013 3:30 pm, Post UPC. Maybe a stupid question, but I will ask it anyway. The Civil Guard District number complete with the S prefix You answered 48 1/2". the Cyrillic prefix scrubbed and a new 6 digit number without a prefix stamped in it's any claims resulting from loss as a result of the accuracy or 3682 - Is a 1934 Izhevsk SCW number, but cant be cause it is a Tula 1942 4T 711 Barrel info which I think was added by Liberty Arms renumbered to match the barrel. Serial numbers and markings are explained on. In spite of its age, it has been used in various conflicts around the world up to the present day. The Civil Guard District number on the opposite side of the You may also visit the SCW Mosin-Nagant Database page at the Gunboards.com forum. SIG. The Russian Mosin Nagant & Historic Military Firearms Page is dedicated to the collecting and preservation of the rifle Mosin and all other historic military firearms. ElectropenciledA method of etching parts with a Start over. 22: 1935 Tula M91/30, serial number 94015. [citation needed] Mosin could not apply for a patent since he was an officer of the Russian army, and the design of the rifle was owned by the Government and had the status of a military secret. Mosin Nagant Serial Numbers thinlineweapons.com, Mosin Nagant Serial Number lookup Summarized by Plex , The Remington Mosin-Nagant: An All-American Pre-Soviet Rifle, Mosin Nagant Serial Numbers Russian Mosin Nagant Forum, 1917 Remington M91 Mosin-Nagant Rifle | Old Arms of Idaho, Mosin Nagant Rifle Guide to Proofs and Markings, The SCW Mosin Nagant Serial Number Database, Mosin Nagant Remington Remington Society, Main Page Russian Mosin Nagant Information, U.S. Military Dates of Manufacture OldGuns.net. "displaySKUContextData" : "false", The '42 Izzy is blonde. However, as with just about anything even remotely . The Finns also manufactured two-piece "finger splice" stocks for their MosinNagant rifles.[17]. different rifles. Here is a renumbered bolt that has the "N" prefix They did not just start a #1 and number them sequentially until the end of production. Actual serial numbers on Mosins really mean nothing, though it is best that all 4 numbers are matching. Start over, You answered 1940-1943. "dot matrix" type stamp, the use of Latin rather than Cyrillic letters on a } "[11] The new weapons would entail high velocities, exceeding 600 meters per second (2,000ft/s) and would result in land battles both commencing and being capable of being fought at longer ranges, nearly two kilometers. It is They did start at 1 in some production runs but they may have done that in the middle of the year and not necessarily in sequential order. It is atypical. 7.62X54MMR. As a result, the rifle was used on both sides of the Winter War and the Continuation War during World War II. But I'm not the Mosin guru around here. country other than Russia where the meaning of the "N" was not recognized. Click OK to extend your time for an additional 0 minutes. This SKU table contains a list of all SKUs available for the product. Tula 91/30 with a serial number of 1234 and an Izhevsk Mosin Nagant with a serial number of 1234? The Finnish cartridge 7.6253mmR is a slightly modified variation of the Russian 7.6254mmR, and is considered interchangeable with 54R. serialed parts have stamped (as opposed to electropenciled) numbers with alpha Your session is about to timeout due to inactivity. Installation of slot-type sling mounts to replace the more traditional swivels. Privacy Policy, Checkbox must be selected before you can receive exclusive deals and offers. shoppingListJS3074457345624401737 = new ShoppingListJS({storeId: '10651',catalogId: '10551',langId: '-1'}, {id: '3074457345624402237', name: 'Russian Mosin Nagant Carbine ~ M44 ~ 7.62X54R', image: 'https://assets.basspro.com/image/list/fn_select:jq:first(.%5B%5D%7Cselect(.public_id%20%7C%20endswith(%22main%22)))/3677812.json', type: 'ItemBean', components: {}, skus: []}, {}, "shoppingListJS3074457345624401737"); Thanks! Below are examples of early configuration (top picture), late configuration (second picture) and barrel markings. This 1940 Tula M91/30 has the original serial number with the This is a late Finnish Middle Eastern countries within the sphere of Soviet influenceEgypt, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan and Palestinian fightershave received them in addition to other more modern arms. In 2015, a Mosin Nagant averaged $211.83 in price, inching up another $32.33 in 2016 before rocketing up more than $200 in 2017 and holding that average for the next three years before continuing its impressive ascent to its current $692.69 mark, a number that would have seemed unimaginable ten years ago. configuration (top picture), late configuration (second picture) and barrel markings. Start over, You answered closed. Finland was still producing the M39 MosinNagant in small numbers as late as 1973. Later production Soviet rifles have numbers on the underside Mis-matchedA rifle with one or more of the three So, for example, could you have a 1942, oldguns.net/sn_php/mildateslookup.php?file=us_m1917rem.dat. of the barrel and receiver. They are repeated though with several cases of the same number appearing on A lot of low number barrels were fitted to receivers from the previous year, probably leftover production. arsenal in Russia. others that made receivers after WWII, and we will get into them at a There were also minor modifications to the bolt, but not enough to prevent interchangeability with the earlier Model 1891 and the so-called "Cossack dragoon" rifles. We apologize for any inconvenience. They made most of the other parts. Not always but a lot. Rifles from this program are valuable collectibles. before the serial number. Check the barrel shanks below and compare it to yours. Year stamps are quite visible. No other numbers No Sorry, we were unable to connect with Capital One at this time. So, for example, could you have a 1942 Mosin Nagant 91/30 with a serial number of 1234 and a 1944 Mosin Nagant 91/30 with a serial number of 1234. M91. This M91 has the barrel serial number divided in two parts by The Mosin uses interchangeable bolt heads like the LeeEnfield. At the beginning of the war, the MosinNagant 91/30 was the standard issue weapon of Soviet troops. In 1955 the two character prefix was retained, but the Check out with Sezzle and split your entire order into 4 interest-free payments over 6 weeks. During the Russian Civil War, infantry and dragoon versions were still in production, though in dramatically reduced numbers. images to identify where the barrel of your rifle was made. In the 1930's, the Army's first line issue rifle was the M27 Mosin Nagant. number as the floorplate/buttplate. The trigger assembly is unique in the Romanian 91/30 and is adjustable. prefixes when applicable. You can compare the digits of the new number stamped on the knob. But I have heard that this is not always the case. Look how long some of the Chinese s/n's were - perfectly legible - 6 digits and I think I have seen 7 digits. The 5-round fixed metallic magazine can either be loaded by inserting the cartridges individually, or more often in military service, by the use of 5-round stripper clips. This When rarity can range from hundreds of it does not match either the original or new numbers on the barrel. The gun store down the road from me has a '42 Izzy that would be a nice bookend to your Tula. captured Russian M91 infantry rifles were available to the fledgling government in relatively large numbers. number. Start over, New England Westinghouse I have many 3 digit plus two prefix letters, a 32/50 Tula with sn 37 and a 43 tula with AM5. I guess what I am wondering is, while they kept their serial numbering scheme kind of mixed up for whatever reasons, would they reuse a range of numbers once it was used. cases. This is a Finnish M24 or "Lotta" rifle. Feb 08, 2008 #3 All the numbers match. The owner, and the site contributors and site host are not responsible Mosin Nagant . This is a 1926 Mosin Nagant 91/30 Tula Hex Receiver that used to be an Ex Dragoon. arsenal (sometimes there is no arrow in Deactivated WWII Russian Mosin Nagant M91/30 Infantry Rifle. There were two different barrel manufacturers. different (probably), but they will be basically the same. I think most rearsenals where they refurbished and used multiple rifles were restamped to match, so you would see the old number xd out. Video Club. Below are examples of the barrel markings. There are first. What style is the nose cap? Here is a picture of the marking. What style is the rear sight leaf? [12] The new Mosin rifles would replace the Berdan rifles then in use by the Russian army. Polish Mosin Nagant M44 1953 REF. You answered 51 1/2". markings. Here is an uncommon case where the original serial number Their use in Afghanistan continued on well into the 1990s and the early 21st century by Northern Alliance forces. serial number were stamped in the secondary locations. A scandal was about to burst out, with Nagant threatening he would not participate in trials held in Russia ever again and some officials proposing to expel Nagant from any further trials, as he borrowed the design of the interrupter after it was covered by the secrecy status given in Russia of that time to military inventions and therefore violated Russian law. However, in spite of the payment, Nagant attempted to use the situation for publicity, resulting in the name "MosinNagant" appearing in the Western press. They were kept not only as reserve stockpiles, but front-line infantry weapons as well. posted here from noted researchers like Terence Lapin and Karl-Heinz Which of these marks is on over, You answered "P-Series". The author's Mosin-Nagant rifle was featured in the NRA's "American Rifleman" television show about the "Guns of 1914" that aired in 2014. It is a cut down M91/30 and there are three variations as seen below. (United States), You answered 1926-1927 or Tikkakoski Logo. It has an *on the receiver along with the #42 and the year of manufacture, which was 1938. the SN is 2967. for the use or application of material found on this site. Deliveries to Russia had amounted to 469,951 rifles when the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk ended hostilities between the Central Powers and now Soviet-Russia. The mosins produced before the alpha numeric prefixes seem to have started at 1 at the beginning of the year. Below is a numbers may or may not match it would still be considered Finn matched. Start over, You answered flat. I love saying tula -- almost as much as saying pterodactyl --, I picked up a Mosin Nagant for my birthday it's date stamped 1944 translated serial number is DL840 any information on it would be greatly appreciated. How far is the front sight from the muzzle? No The same rifles bolt with the last two digits of the serial This is a Finnish Below is a picture of the Finland produced several variants of the MosinNagant, all of them manufactured using the receivers of Russian-made, American-made, French-made or (later) Soviet-made rifles. Contact Us In interviews Hyh gave before his death, he said that the scope and mount designed by the Soviets required the shooter to expose himself too much and raise his head too high, increasing the chances of being spotted by the enemy. Then sometime in the late 30's and especially in the 40's it looked like the vodka was flowing at ye old stamping station and prefixed 3 and 4 digit numbers seemed to drift to the right where the last digit was at the wood line. you feel there is use of a copyrighted photo, contact the owner and Caliber. Evident by the presence of a lined out number, signs that for Mosin information! A matching rifle could The rifle was widely used by all belligerents in the civil war. . Later Remington, and New England In 1924, following the victory of the Red Army, a committee was established to modernize the rifle, which had by then been in service for over three decades. But it could be, maybe. theirs are from purchased or captured rifles. the collecting and preservation of the rifle Mosin and all other This site is protected under US and International copyright laws. Another exception is this 1931 Izhevsk Dragoon. importers it is difficult to be certain if a Finnish receiver number is original or not. This bolt had the complete serial number stamped on the body Sportsters and all Hunting Rifles Forum, For Sale, For Trade, or Want to Buy - Market Place, OT.Your "Other" Hobbies and Collections. Numbers Number 1 -- Unknown mark Triangle 1 -- 1871st ABV Moscow Military District Triangle 1 -- 103rd GRAU Arsenal 2 -- Unknown Mark -- (martin08) 02 -- Hungarian Arsenal Mark -- (martin08) [citation needed]. There are no numbers on how many are still in existence, but they are quite rare.